Quinn diplomatic about chance at earning No. 1 QB role

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03/16/2010 - Englewood, CO (Sportsbook Betting Lines) - Brady Quinn officially became a member of the Denver Broncos on Monday after passing his physical and was immediately inundated with questions if he'll go into training camp trying to wrestle the starting quarterback job away from Kyle Orton.

"I think every quarterback on our roster wants to play," Quinn said during a teleconference Monday. "Believe me, whether it's Tom [Brandstater], Kyle, or myself, we're all quarterbacks. Believe me, we're going to be team players first, but we all want to be out there playing on the field. Coach [Josh] McDaniels makes that decision. It's not up to us."

Quinn was traded over the weekend from Cleveland in a deal that netted the Browns fullback Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.

The 25-year-old Quinn, a former Notre Dame star, played in 10 games for the Browns last season throwing for 1,339 yards with eight touchdowns and seven interceptions. He played in just 14 games over three seasons in Cleveland after being a first-round pick by the Browns in 2007.

"I don't want to debate whether I got a fair shot, that's all behind me," Quinn said. "It's a great opportunity here in Denver. That's what I'm focused on, that's what I'm excited about. You can't change the past three years."

Asked whether he's been told by McDaniels if he'll actually receive a chance at the starting job, Quinn remained evasive.

"Those conversations are private at this point, but I think all of us quarterbacks are going to be working our best to make each other better," he said. "I think that's going to make our team better in the long run."

McDaniels also hasn't commented publicly since the trade, creating more speculation that the Broncos will have a quarterback battle in training camp for the top job.

Orton, who was traded from Chicago for Jay Cutler prior to last season, played in all 16 games for Denver last season and threw for a career-best 3,802 yards with 21 touchdowns and was picked off 12 times.

"From watching him, you can see he's an accurate, smart player," Quinn said of Orton. "He's got a lot of talent. He's done a great job of continuing to get better."

Denver reduced its QB roster on Monday too, releasing Chris Simms.

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